Monkey Island World Forum

Giocherellone ha scritto: ↑2 ott 2017, 10:05Penso innanzitutto che si debba sottoporre a qualcuno "del profondo nord" per verificare se il tutto è comprensibile

Consapevole del fatto che NON POSSO aver trovato tutte le variabili, ho chiesto a Cmdr una lista delle stesse, come avevo accennato tempo fa, ma ancora nulla. Per questo ho chiesto a te se le avessi trovate tutte.

• The person who knows the answer of the riddle is randomized. It's either the scout, the chef, mapman, kate or the dragon.
• There are two possibilities to get the money for the peppermind:
  - Sell the vase from the governeurs mansion to the stuffkeeper (gives you 10 credits)
  - Pick up the duck from the safe and sell it to the stuffkeeper (should NOT work twice). This gives you 3 credits, finally not enough to pay mapman for the riddle too.
• There is a hidden possibility to complete Part 1 without getting arrested: Pick up the gold from the dragon, transform it into straw and just walk to Kate, where you transform it back to gold to pay for the cruise. (You will miss the crowbar this time - so be happy to find another one onto the ship).

• Some items on the ship have randomized positions. I dunno if they have specials phrases but here are the possible positions:
  - The doll and the monocle are either in the chest near the sleeping person, in the chest on the lower deck or in the suitcase in the back of the lower deck. The third position is always empty.
  - The toupet and the sock are either in the cabinet, under the bed or in the chest on the right. The key is either in the left or the right drawer.
• To pick up the voodoo doll out of the pot you can either use the crowbar or the colander.
• There are 4 possible ways the use the voodoo doll at the sheriff:
  - Use the darts on it while you are with him in his room.
  - Put the doll into the stove.
  - Throw the doll out of the window in the galley
  - Throw the doll over the plank
  You will get to 3 different cutscenes (the last 2 result in the same cutscene).

• There are two possibilities to mix the hangover remedy - it depends on if you have sunken the ship or not.
  - Let the barkeeper mix it for you.
  - If you have sunken the ship you have to throw all the ingredients into the beer (cervisia).
• To prove that the crook can also dye some cloth to green you can either use it on the ball of twine or on a T-shirt (also works on the sock back in Part 2!).
• To get the golden drink from the gift shop you can either give the guy the T-shirt with the three headed monkey or the mini figure from the monkey head.
• You can either buy the T-shirts from Steve, or just steal it, if you use the voodoo necklace. (Or try to buy the shirts and look cloaked at the register later )
• There are two possibilities to let Erna go away, so you can enter the captain's cabin: Either you give her the voodoo necklace or the invitation to the party (second leads you to the previous point and also to another solution...).
• To crash the party you can either start the fire alarm or.... just give Erna the invitation (see above) ;-).
• To get the chainsaw you can either paint a cross at the map and look at it, or just use the whoopee cushion while the door is opened.
• To get rid of the ghost rat you can use one of the harder alcohols (absinth, blue vodka or straw rum) or a mesh them up with the semolina.
• To get the absinth from the ghost you can either use the feather or a hemp leave.
• To get rid of the gardener you can either use the stink bomb or the fake vomit on the grass.
• To befriending the canibals you can give them one of 3 things:
  - The ticket for the vegetable museum.
  - A green dyed T-shirt (little dialog puzzle included)
  - A signed plate of Elvis (Use the pencil onto the plate)
• The golden drink can be turned into straw rum while using it with the crook. The straw rum can be turned into a doom drink while using it with the chili sauce.

• Using it with the cables at the twine restaurant it will get an electic shock.
• Giving the blue vodka will give him the ability to blow fresh air.
• Giving him the absinth will give him the ability to poison.
• Giving him the straw rum will give him the ability to breath fire.
• Giving him the doom drink will result in a super fire ability.
• Giving him a hemp leave will give him the ability to heal.

• The guy with white shirt and blond hair likes cervisia (bad if you have wasted it in the hangover remedy).
• The guy with the red shirt and hat likes the red wine (to be found at canibal village).
• The guy with the pink shirt and bandana likes sparkling wine (let Gaybrush give it to you before you crash the party).
• The guy with the blue shirt likes the blue vodka.
• The guy with the green shirt likes absinth.
• The straw rum and the doom drink will make the contest shorter, as both opponents will get drunk very soon. You can also choose these at the drinking masters, to shorten the final up.
  But aware, this will also make it harder for you, if you miss some answers.

• You can put one of the harder alcohols into the tumbler to turn it into grog or just use light alcohol or water and do it twice.
• You can use the doom drink onto the rusty chest to open it, without solving the puzzle chain with the grog machine.

• Instead of giving the ghost chef his favorite drink you can just put on the voodoo necklace and walk through the kitchen.
• You can also just pick up the key near Klaus while wearing the necklace instead of using the pan onto the dinosaur head.
• To make the paper readable you can either put it into the stove or use it with the candle.
• Besides the governeurs mansion, there are two possible locations to reach with the teleport:
  -The graveyard
  -The tomb
  One of these locations is randomly picked up on every start of the game. Both are very similar as they include the same puzzle. But the graveyard has some additional textes and also leads to the town in Part 1.

• Put the teddy into the box outside near Steve.
• Put the teddy into the iron maiden.
• Use the teddy with laxative.
• Put the teddy into the voodoo stove.
• Put the teddy into the kitchen stove.
• Put the teddy at the candle. (same ending as above)
• Use the syringe with the teddy while near the governeur.

Non si può che quotare Tutto quanto hai già proposto.
In attesa dei pareri degli altri partecipanti, solo una correzione. La parola che risulta censurata, verrà messa con il sostantivo generico di ratto in napoletano: rattu.
Il motivo è per permettere ad un pubblico MOLTO giovanile di poterci giocare (senza censure degli adulti XD) in piena libertà e tranquillità.

Cmdr ha scritto: ↑10 ott 2017, 18:03So, that was all I remember by know. I hope I haven't forgot anything.

Cmdr ha scritto: ↑10 ott 2017, 18:03***Part 2***
There are 4 possible ways the use the voodoo doll at the sheriff:
- Use the darts on it while you are with him in his room.
- Put the doll into the stove.
- Throw the doll out of the window in the galley
- Throw the doll over the plank
You will get to 3 different cutscenes (the last 2 result in the same cutscene).

And... 5: Throw the doll out of the bullseye.
And... 6: Burn the doll with burning credit or with burning flyer.

Cmdr ha scritto: ↑10 ott 2017, 18:03 ***Insult Drinking***
You can choose different alcoholics for drinking. Every opponent has a favorite alcohol which will make him harder, but also leads to a special insult, which only he knows.
You won't be able to get all these special insults (the last 5 insults in the list) without choosing the favorite drink of every opponent one time.

The guy with white shirt and blond hair likes cervisia (bad if you have wasted it in the hangover remedy).
The guy with the red shirt and hat likes the red wine (to be found at canibal village).
The guy with the pink shirt and bandana likes sparkling wine (let Gaybrush give it to you before you crash the party).
The guy with the blue shirt likes the blue vodka.
The guy with the green shirt likes absinth.
The straw rum and the doom drink will make the contest shorter, as both opponents will get drunk very soon. You can also choose these at the drinking masters, to shorten the final up.
But aware, this will also make it harder for you, if you miss some answers.

Quickly and efficiently, just look at the dialogs colour of Insult Drinker.

Cmdr ha scritto: ↑10 ott 2017, 18:03***Part 5***
Instead of giving the ghost chef his favorite drink you can just put on the voodoo necklace and walk through the kitchen.
You can also just pick up the key near Klaus while wearing the necklace instead of using the pan onto the dinosaur head.
To make the paper readable you can either put it into the stove or use it with the candle.
Besides the governeurs mansion, there are two possible locations to reach with the teleport:
-The graveyard
-The tomb
One of these locations is randomly picked up on every start of the game. Both are very similar as they include the same puzzle. But the graveyard has some additional textes and also leads to the town in Part 1.

There is the Demon's song, too.
Exact combinations are these (question - answer):
head - rip
arm - head
hip - arm
leg - hip
rip - leg

Cmdr ha scritto: ↑10 ott 2017, 18:03***Final Fight***
There are 7 possibilities to defeat the governeur which lead to some different endings:

Put the teddy into the box outside near Steve.
Put the teddy into the iron maiden.
Use the teddy with laxative.
Put the teddy into the voodoo stove.
Put the teddy into the kitchen stove.
Put the teddy at the candle. (same ending as above)
Use the syringe with the teddy while near the governeur.

And... 8: Put the Mercury Cola in the stove.

In addition,
Easter eggs
- (Part 1) Bernard's Room: use the credit with back door of kitchen's chef.
- (Part 3) Grisush's Nightmare : use the bedroom to sleep.
- (Part 3) Go to the sun: At the bifurcation, Walk to sun.
- (Part 3) DOTT flag : getting on crow's nest of cruise ship.

Useless stuff (or became unnecessary)
- red herring:
(Part 0) like a cat food - Give it to the cat in chef's kitchen.
(Part 1) like a fish in the aquarium - Put it into the burrel of sheriff's house
- plate of Elvis:
(Part 3) like a gift - Give it to Erna
- ticket for the vegetable museum:
(Part 3) like a gift - Give it to restaurant guest

utdefault ha scritto:

And... 5: Throw the doll out of the bullseye.
And... 6: Burn the doll with burning credit or with burning flyer.

I also implement these possibilities? I totally forgot that, but they also have to result in the Window- and the Fire-Cutscene.

Quickly and efficiently, just look at the dialogs colour of Insult Drinker.

Yeah, because the dialogs colour mostly depends on the shirt color.

There is the Demon's song, too.
Exact combinations are these (question - answer):
head - rip
arm - head
hip - arm
leg - hip
rip - leg

Of course, the Demon's Song!
But your combinations are not always right, they are randomized, too.
The first one is always head-rip, but the other one depend on the skeleton-pictures onto the wall of the corridor.
I think this isn't very important for the translation, cause the elements are picked by the algorithms. There are no different sentences to translate for every combination.

But there is also the disc puzzle in front of the fortress door.
There are a total of 3 times 4 Symbols with an description in the book, and one per disk is randomly picked.
WARNING: I remember doing an awul translation fault here!
This line:
'2 Pfund Holzböcke...'
really means "2 pounds of ticks"(the small animal which sucks blood)
I hope you already took this right in your translation.

And... 8: Put the Mercury Cola in the stove.

Or put the Mercury Cola at the candle.
Or just wait 10 Minutes while carrying the Mercury Cola around.

Well, ok. This is more a Loose - Game Over than a Good End of the game, but actually it is an end..

In addition,
Easter eggs
- (Part 1) Bernard's Room: use the credit with back door of kitchen's chef.
- (Part 3) Grisush's Nightmare : use the bedroom to sleep.
- (Part 3) Go to the sun: At the bifurcation, Walk to sun.
- (Part 3) DOTT flag : getting on crow's nest of cruise ship.

There are a lot more eastereggs and stuff like that. It depends on what you call "easter egg". Most of it is just a funny comment about something. (Has anybody tried to walk to the moon in front of the AGS bar?)

Btw: Since Version 1.1 Grisush's Nightmare isn't a purely Easter Egg anymore, because since then it is necessary to get the feather (before it was at the ink pot). Otherwise you don't need the feather to finish the game, because of different puzzle solutions.

Useless stuff (or became unnecessary)
- red herring:
(Part 0) like a cat food - Give it to the cat in chef's kitchen.
(Part 1) like a fish in the aquarium - Put it into the burrel of sheriff's house
- plate of Elvis:
(Part 3) like a gift - Give it to Erna
- ticket for the vegetable museum:
(Part 3) like a gift - Give it to restaurant guest

There is no useless stuff in Lonkey Island, because every item can be used somewhere. But not every item has to be used, due to the alternative puzzle solutions I mentioned above. So it's possible to waste some stuff without running into a dead end.

Giocherellone ha scritto: Ehilà Asterix777!

Bentornato mattacchione!!!

Ma allora tu e Bunny777 siete la stessa persona!

utdefault ha scritto: Some translation questions...

Q1) The hungover resident says Grisush this sentence: "Los gehts! // (eng) Let's go!"
In which other parts of game is it used for?

I searched around my sources, and I found 2 other occurences (Maybe there is one in the dialogs, too. The AGS-search doesn't count them.)
-Cannonball before the quest with the doors says "So. Los gehts!" (A slighty different sentence, but same meaning)
-Grisush just before he enters the boat with 2 paddles says: "Ich habe zwei Paddel." - "Los gehts!" ("I have two paddles". - "Let's go!")

Q2) In this sentence: Das ist der Weg zurück in die Freiheit! // (eng) That is the way back to freedom!
In what way, 'freedom'? It's only outside of church.
Is it a funny comment or a media citation?

-just a little funny comment, because he doesn't feel well in the church of satan and prefers to go out.

utdefault ha scritto:
Some last questions...

In which other parts of game are following sentences used for?

1) Hab ich jetzt etwa nen Job als Putze bekommen? / Did I get the job as janitor after all?
Use the serviette with the dirty window in the galley. The phrase is a reference to a swordfighting insult in the original game.

lady in ghost costume
2) Meinetwegen. / Whatever.
Giving some weed the first time to one of these persons: Tourists, Clown, Elk, Lady in Ghost-Costume, Erna.
It's a very common word, but the only place where it stands alone is this.

lady of the summit
3) Ganz einfach der Grund ist. / Simple the reason it is.
This sentence is the Yoda-like speech of the lady of the summit. Could only be from here.

head of navigator
4) Danke nochmal, Mann.
5) Voll korrekt, Mann.
6) Nee, Mann. Keine Ahnung.
7) Danke, Mann.
8 ) Ich habe...
9) Scheiße, Mann!
10) Schon klar, Mann.
11) Nein danke, Mann.
12) Ich halte nichts von Alkohol.
13) Was kann ich jetzt für dich tun, Mann?
14) Ja, Mann.
15) Klar, Mann.
16) Das ist doch voll easy.
17) Das waren noch Zeiten, Mann.
18 ) Na, in diesem Oschi von Affenkopf, Mann.
19) Außer mir natürlich, Mann.
20) Dafür bin ich dir auch voll dankbar, Mann.
21) Chill doch mal, Mann.
22) Bei mir erreichst du mit diesem 'Bitte' so gar nichts.
23) Oh, na gut du korrektes Kind.
24) Hehe. Sorry, Mann.
25) Was willst du noch?
26) Nein, Mann.
27) Ich habe echt keinen Plan, wo das liegt.
All these sentences are only spoken by the head of the navigator ;-)

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Bug?!?
Using other objects of inventory with the darts, the following sentence is not translated (neither in Italian, nor in English):
Das muss nicht gepiekst werden. /// (ita) Non ha bisogno di una freccetta.

Is it a bug or an clerical mistake?
You're right. This is a clerical mistake. It should be "Das muss nicht gepikst werden." which is already translated into the file.
I fixed in the code.

p.s.:
There are a lot of bugs.
At the end of translation works, they are coming to you - via PM - by our official PR.

(... on the seven seas, he's known as the Jurassic Creature. )

O great - I hope so!
I plan to release a new version of the game with your translation included - and as the best it would have all the bugs eliminated.
.

Did you also find some translation issues with the english translation? I know this translation is not the best, since I made it myself and it's not my mother language. Would also be great if you help me to improve this a bit.

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Finally, a doubt as a player:
cutting the vine (that one near the door) in the shack of cannibal vegans, what is it for?
Actually it was first intended to be included into the woman-puzzle, also giving the woman some hair - but I cutted this idea out.
Now it's only a false path to irritate the player a bit.